Discussion:
Our ABC 'MAFIA IN AUSTRALIA" political connections
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dechucka
2015-06-28 22:35:15 UTC
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Should be fascinating viewing and probably worrying viewing.

The snippet that Vandstone employed the son of a mafia don in our Rome
Embassy ( where Mafia relate intelligence is passed from the Italians) has
wetted my interest
Fran Farmer
2015-06-29 00:01:44 UTC
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Post by dechucka
Should be fascinating viewing and probably worrying viewing.
The snippet that Vandstone employed the son of a mafia don in our Rome
Embassy ( where Mafia relate intelligence is passed from the Italians)
has wetted my interest
Drat, I must have missed seeing that promo. When is it scheduled to be
shown please dechucka?

Mind you, I think highly of Vanstone given that she wouldn't kowtow to
little Johnny H.

I must ring a friend who had a posting in Rome and ask her if she has
heard any such whispers on this topic.
dechucka
2015-06-29 04:54:21 UTC
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Post by Fran Farmer
Post by dechucka
Should be fascinating viewing and probably worrying viewing.
The snippet that Vandstone employed the son of a mafia don in our Rome
Embassy ( where Mafia relate intelligence is passed from the Italians)
has wetted my interest
Drat, I must have missed seeing that promo. When is it scheduled to be
shown please dechucka?
Mind you, I think highly of Vanstone given that she wouldn't kowtow to
little Johnny H.
I must ring a friend who had a posting in Rome and ask her if she has
heard any such whispers on this topic.
2 parts 1st tonight from I gathered from watching ABC 24 1/2 asleep this
morning
dechucka
2015-06-29 04:56:06 UTC
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Post by dechucka
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by dechucka
Should be fascinating viewing and probably worrying viewing.
The snippet that Vandstone employed the son of a mafia don in our Rome
Embassy ( where Mafia relate intelligence is passed from the Italians)
has wetted my interest
Drat, I must have missed seeing that promo. When is it scheduled to be
shown please dechucka?
Mind you, I think highly of Vanstone given that she wouldn't kowtow to
little Johnny H.
I must ring a friend who had a posting in Rome and ask her if she has
heard any such whispers on this topic.
2 parts 1st tonight from I gathered from watching ABC 24 1/2 asleep this
morning
SORRY it's on 4 Corners
Computer Nerd Kev
2015-06-29 05:01:55 UTC
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Post by dechucka
Post by dechucka
Post by Fran Farmer
Drat, I must have missed seeing that promo. When is it
scheduled to be shown please dechucka?
Mind you, I think highly of Vanstone given that she
wouldn't kowtow to little Johnny H.
I must ring a friend who had a posting in Rome and ask
her if she has heard any such whispers on this topic.
2 parts 1st tonight from I gathered from watching ABC 24
1/2 asleep this morning
SORRY it's on 4 Corners
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2015/06/29/4261876.htm

Promo is on that page too.
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dechucka
2015-06-29 05:18:32 UTC
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Post by Computer Nerd Kev
Post by dechucka
Post by dechucka
Post by Fran Farmer
Drat, I must have missed seeing that promo. When is it
scheduled to be shown please dechucka?
Mind you, I think highly of Vanstone given that she
wouldn't kowtow to little Johnny H.
I must ring a friend who had a posting in Rome and ask
her if she has heard any such whispers on this topic.
2 parts 1st tonight from I gathered from watching ABC 24
1/2 asleep this morning
SORRY it's on 4 Corners
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2015/06/29/4261876.htm
Promo is on that page too.
tah
Fran Farmer
2015-06-29 05:42:21 UTC
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Post by dechucka
SORRY it's on 4 Corners
Thanks dechucka - will either watch it or record it.
Petzl
2015-06-29 00:35:00 UTC
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Post by dechucka
Should be fascinating viewing and probably worrying viewing.
The snippet that Vandstone employed the son of a mafia don in our Rome
Embassy ( where Mafia relate intelligence is passed from the Italians) has
wetted my interest
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-33306842
Then there is the Saudi funding of BOTH our major parties and media
http://www.smh.com.au/national/wikileaks-saudi-cables-reveal-secret-saudi-government-influence-in-australia-20150620-ght4kp.html
http://tinyurl.com/oycx2bc
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Petzl
A two-party system gives the voter only one more choice than North Korea.

In a democracy of course you always get a choice
Do you want to be governed by the red or by the blue?
it's entirely up to you!
Do you want to be patronized or condescended to, by liars or by crooks? You get to choose.
Would you prefer your fundamental values to be insulted or ignored by con-men or by charlatans?
In short do you want your influence to be zero or nil
and when would you like to be listened to, never or not at all, it's your choice
Do you want, some more choices.
take-it-or-leave-it
Now there's a real choice I'd be happy with any kind of representation wouldn't you
I would like to see a new government and part of me doesn't give a
damn who's in it as long as it doesn't include anybody from the Labor, Liberal or
Green party organizations that show themselves to be without shame or principle

All spineless and authoritarian both cowardly and war mongering at the same time
we have proportional voting in Australia USE IT

Put Labor, Liberal and Green party last on your Ballot choose your
independant or small parties first then donkey vote down to those last
on your ballot. Stops the majors getting OVER $2.50 a 1st preferance vote
Omni
2015-06-29 03:07:20 UTC
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Post by dechucka
Should be fascinating viewing and probably worrying viewing.
The snippet that Vandstone employed the son of a mafia don in our Rome
Embassy ( where Mafia relate intelligence is passed from the Italians)
has wetted my interest
The lord mayor of Perth, Lisa Scaffidi, is the daughter-in-law of a
mafia don. The Scaffidi family being one the longest-established mafia
families in Australia, who made their fortune from brothels and
importing heroin. That doesn't seem to bother anyone in WA, including
the police commissioner, whose son is a high-ranking member of a
competing organized crime gang.

As long as organized crime gangs' urge to collude against the public
outweighs their urge to compete with one another, they operate with
impunity. It's only when their competitiveness becomes murderously
violent, as it did for a few years in Victoria, that the government &
police pretend to crack down on them just long enough for the public to
lose interest.
Clocky
2015-06-29 22:56:37 UTC
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Post by Omni
Post by dechucka
Should be fascinating viewing and probably worrying viewing.
The snippet that Vandstone employed the son of a mafia don in our Rome
Embassy ( where Mafia relate intelligence is passed from the Italians)
has wetted my interest
The lord mayor of Perth, Lisa Scaffidi, is the daughter-in-law of a
mafia don. The Scaffidi family being one the longest-established mafia
families in Australia, who made their fortune from brothels and
importing heroin. That doesn't seem to bother anyone in WA, including
the police commissioner, whose son is a high-ranking member of a
competing organized crime gang.
Swan Shire councillers cough ahem... what is understood need not be
discussed.
Omni
2015-07-03 10:19:34 UTC
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Post by Omni
Post by dechucka
Should be fascinating viewing and probably worrying viewing.
The snippet that Vandstone employed the son of a mafia don in our Rome
Embassy ( where Mafia relate intelligence is passed from the Italians)
has wetted my interest
The lord mayor of Perth, Lisa Scaffidi, is the daughter-in-law of a
mafia don. The Scaffidi family being one the longest-established mafia
families in Australia, who made their fortune from brothels and
importing heroin. That doesn't seem to bother anyone in WA, including
the police commissioner, whose son is a high-ranking member of a
competing organized crime gang.
Lisa Scaffidi tweeted today: "Australia needs to rid itself of drugs
like it banned guns. The damage to young bodies & other lives is too
great."

https://twitter.com/LisaScafPerthLM/status/616745097091284992

That's how shameless the mafia are in Australia.
dechucka
2015-07-03 21:55:52 UTC
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Post by Omni
Post by dechucka
Should be fascinating viewing and probably worrying viewing.
The snippet that Vandstone employed the son of a mafia don in our Rome
Embassy ( where Mafia relate intelligence is passed from the Italians)
has wetted my interest
The lord mayor of Perth, Lisa Scaffidi, is the daughter-in-law of a
mafia don. The Scaffidi family being one the longest-established mafia
families in Australia, who made their fortune from brothels and
importing heroin. That doesn't seem to bother anyone in WA, including
the police commissioner, whose son is a high-ranking member of a
competing organized crime gang.
Lisa Scaffidi tweeted today: "Australia needs to rid itself of drugs like
it banned guns. The damage to young bodies & other lives is too great."
https://twitter.com/LisaScafPerthLM/status/616745097091284992
That's how shameless the mafia are in Australia.
and stupid, the drugs she is talking about (I assume) are banned

Mazz
2015-06-29 10:23:39 UTC
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Post by dechucka
Should be fascinating viewing and probably worrying viewing.
The snippet that Vandstone employed the son of a mafia don in our Rome
Embassy ( where Mafia relate intelligence is passed from the Italians)
has wetted my interest
The Age is running the story:
http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/key-liberal-fundraising-body-took-mafia-money-for-access-20150629-gi07yb

"Key Liberal fundraising body took Mafia money for access"

It seems the Mafia bought quite a bit of influence in the Liberal
government...

Just dont rely on the Murdoch press to read about it...
dechucka
2015-06-29 19:56:45 UTC
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Post by Mazz
Post by dechucka
Should be fascinating viewing and probably worrying viewing.
The snippet that Vandstone employed the son of a mafia don in our Rome
Embassy ( where Mafia relate intelligence is passed from the Italians)
has wetted my interest
http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/key-liberal-fundraising-body-took-mafia-money-for-access-20150629-gi07yb
"Key Liberal fundraising body took Mafia money for access"
It seems the Mafia bought quite a bit of influence in the Liberal
government...
Just dont rely on the Murdoch press to read about it...
Am I being cynical in suggesting this is the reason Abbott is runnung so
hard with the Q&A thing?
Petzl
2015-06-30 00:02:35 UTC
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Post by dechucka
Post by Mazz
Post by dechucka
Should be fascinating viewing and probably worrying viewing.
The snippet that Vandstone employed the son of a mafia don in our Rome
Embassy ( where Mafia relate intelligence is passed from the Italians)
has wetted my interest
http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/key-liberal-fundraising-body-took-mafia-money-for-access-20150629-gi07yb
"Key Liberal fundraising body took Mafia money for access"
It seems the Mafia bought quite a bit of influence in the Liberal
government...
Just dont rely on the Murdoch press to read about it...
Am I being cynical in suggesting this is the reason Abbott is runnung so
hard with the Q&A thing?
Rupert Murdoch want's the ABC in his hands
Abbott's gave him a billion dollars two weeks after Murdoch media got
him in (not reported in Murdoch media)
Now Murdoch is set to get 4.5 billion this year!
http://www.smh.com.au/business/rupert-murdochs-us-empire-siphons-45b-from-australian-business-virtually-taxfree-20150406-1meu0l.html
http://tinyurl.com/p2cxhrr
--
Petzl
A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious.
But it cannot survive treason from within.
An enemy at the gates is less formidable,for he is known and carries his banner openly.
But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely,
his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys,heard
in the very halls of government itself.
For the traitor appears not a traitor;
he speaks in accents familiar to his victims,
and he wears their face
and their arguments,he appeals to the baseness
that lies deep in the hearts of all men.
He rots the soul of a nation,
he works secretly and unknown in the night
to undermine the pillars of the city,
he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist.
A murderer is less to fear.
The traitor is the plague.--Marcus Tullius Cicero
Fran Farmer
2015-06-30 06:54:37 UTC
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Post by dechucka
Post by Mazz
Post by dechucka
Should be fascinating viewing and probably worrying viewing.
The snippet that Vandstone employed the son of a mafia don in our Rome
Embassy ( where Mafia relate intelligence is passed from the Italians)
has wetted my interest
http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/key-liberal-fundraising-body-took-mafia-money-for-access-20150629-gi07yb
"Key Liberal fundraising body took Mafia money for access"
It seems the Mafia bought quite a bit of influence in the Liberal
government...
Just dont rely on the Murdoch press to read about it...
Am I being cynical in suggesting this is the reason Abbott is runnung so
hard with the Q&A thing?
Did you see Q&Alast night?

Wilson and Kelly's responses tohaving Mallah on were were appalling as
was Tanya's. They all proved to me that having that little shit on and
seeing the stupid response he got from Ciobo was a really good idea.

Bloody Wilson is a Human Rights Commissioner and supposedly a supporter
of free speech but the appallign man didn't say a thing about Ciobo and
his Human Rights infringeing responee to Mallah. Mallah may be a twit,
but he is not a Parl. Sec. and so I have more tolerance for him saying
stupid things than that twit Ciobo.
Trevor
2015-06-30 07:36:49 UTC
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Post by Fran Farmer
Post by dechucka
Post by Mazz
Post by dechucka
Should be fascinating viewing and probably worrying viewing.
The snippet that Vandstone employed the son of a mafia don in our Rome
Embassy ( where Mafia relate intelligence is passed from the Italians)
has wetted my interest
http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/key-liberal-fundraising-body-took-mafia-money-for-access-20150629-gi07yb
"Key Liberal fundraising body took Mafia money for access"
It seems the Mafia bought quite a bit of influence in the Liberal
government...
Just dont rely on the Murdoch press to read about it...
Am I being cynical in suggesting this is the reason Abbott is runnung so
hard with the Q&A thing?
Did you see Q&Alast night?
Wilson and Kelly's responses tohaving Mallah on were were appalling as
was Tanya's. They all proved to me that having that little shit on and
seeing the stupid response he got from Ciobo was a really good idea.
Bloody Wilson is a Human Rights Commissioner and supposedly a supporter
of free speech but the appallign man didn't say a thing about Ciobo and
his Human Rights infringeing responee to Mallah. Mallah may be a twit,
but he is not a Parl. Sec. and so I have more tolerance for him saying
stupid things than that twit Ciobo.
Loved Media Watch's response to all the government and media hypocrisy
over non freedom of speech, especially the clip of Howard supporting
exactly the same freedom of speech issue in the past, and all the right
wing commercial media that has had Mallah on themselves now calling for
ABC heads to roll! :-)

Trevor.
Omni
2015-06-30 09:45:42 UTC
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Post by Trevor
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by dechucka
Post by Mazz
Post by dechucka
Should be fascinating viewing and probably worrying viewing.
The snippet that Vandstone employed the son of a mafia don in our Rome
Embassy ( where Mafia relate intelligence is passed from the Italians)
has wetted my interest
http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/key-liberal-fundraising-body-took-mafia-money-for-access-20150629-gi07yb
"Key Liberal fundraising body took Mafia money for access"
It seems the Mafia bought quite a bit of influence in the Liberal
government...
Just dont rely on the Murdoch press to read about it...
Am I being cynical in suggesting this is the reason Abbott is runnung so
hard with the Q&A thing?
Did you see Q&Alast night?
Wilson and Kelly's responses tohaving Mallah on were were appalling as
was Tanya's. They all proved to me that having that little shit on and
seeing the stupid response he got from Ciobo was a really good idea.
Bloody Wilson is a Human Rights Commissioner and supposedly a supporter
of free speech but the appallign man didn't say a thing about Ciobo and
his Human Rights infringeing responee to Mallah. Mallah may be a twit,
but he is not a Parl. Sec. and so I have more tolerance for him saying
stupid things than that twit Ciobo.
Loved Media Watch's response to all the government and media hypocrisy
over non freedom of speech, especially the clip of Howard supporting
exactly the same freedom of speech issue in the past, and all the right
wing commercial media that has had Mallah on themselves now calling for
ABC heads to roll! :-)
The neo-fascist John Howard as poster boy for lefties - who thought
they'd ever see that? It just shows how easily confused leftist
ideologues are.
dechucka
2015-06-30 20:57:22 UTC
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Post by Trevor
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by dechucka
Post by Mazz
Post by dechucka
Should be fascinating viewing and probably worrying viewing.
The snippet that Vandstone employed the son of a mafia don in our Rome
Embassy ( where Mafia relate intelligence is passed from the Italians)
has wetted my interest
http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/key-liberal-fundraising-body-took-mafia-money-for-access-20150629-gi07yb
"Key Liberal fundraising body took Mafia money for access"
It seems the Mafia bought quite a bit of influence in the Liberal
government...
Just dont rely on the Murdoch press to read about it...
Am I being cynical in suggesting this is the reason Abbott is runnung so
hard with the Q&A thing?
Did you see Q&Alast night?
Wilson and Kelly's responses tohaving Mallah on were were appalling as
was Tanya's. They all proved to me that having that little shit on and
seeing the stupid response he got from Ciobo was a really good idea.
Bloody Wilson is a Human Rights Commissioner and supposedly a supporter
of free speech but the appallign man didn't say a thing about Ciobo and
his Human Rights infringeing responee to Mallah. Mallah may be a twit,
but he is not a Parl. Sec. and so I have more tolerance for him saying
stupid things than that twit Ciobo.
Loved Media Watch's response to all the government and media hypocrisy
over non freedom of speech, especially the clip of Howard supporting
exactly the same freedom of speech issue in the past, and all the right
wing commercial media that has had Mallah on themselves now calling for
ABC heads to roll! :-)
The neo-fascist John Howard as poster boy for lefties - who thought they'd
ever see that? It just shows how easily confused leftist ideologues are.
I would think that it shows how consistent the liberals are on freedom of
speech and how easily confused Liberal ideologues are. Worse than Labor the
LNP stands for votes
Ördög Lucifer Belphegor Abaddon Satan Beelzebub
2015-06-30 22:01:11 UTC
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Post by Omni
Post by Trevor
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by dechucka
Post by Mazz
Post by dechucka
Should be fascinating viewing and probably worrying viewing.
The snippet that Vandstone employed the son of a mafia don in our
Rome Embassy ( where Mafia relate intelligence is passed from the
Italians)
has wetted my interest
http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/key-
liberal-fundraising-body-took-mafia-money-for-access-20150629-gi07yb
Post by Omni
Post by Trevor
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by dechucka
Post by Mazz
"Key Liberal fundraising body took Mafia money for access"
It seems the Mafia bought quite a bit of influence in the Liberal
government...
Just dont rely on the Murdoch press to read about it...
Am I being cynical in suggesting this is the reason Abbott is runnung
so hard with the Q&A thing?
Did you see Q&Alast night?
Wilson and Kelly's responses tohaving Mallah on were were appalling as
was Tanya's. They all proved to me that having that little shit on
and seeing the stupid response he got from Ciobo was a really good
idea.
Bloody Wilson is a Human Rights Commissioner and supposedly a
supporter of free speech but the appallign man didn't say a thing
about Ciobo and his Human Rights infringeing responee to Mallah.
Mallah may be a twit, but he is not a Parl. Sec. and so I have more
tolerance for him saying stupid things than that twit Ciobo.
Loved Media Watch's response to all the government and media hypocrisy
over non freedom of speech, especially the clip of Howard supporting
exactly the same freedom of speech issue in the past, and all the right
wing commercial media that has had Mallah on themselves now calling for
ABC heads to roll! :-)
The neo-fascist John Howard as poster boy for lefties
NOT

- who thought
Post by Omni
they'd ever see that? It just shows how easily confused leftist
ideologues are.
BS
The Lying Rodent gnome has nothing to offer for the real political Left!
Not now and not ever.

What has been clearly shown in this instance was how fast the LNP ended up
accelerating towards rightwing extremism. Just as Fraser has ended up to
the left of his own political side over a few decades down the line so
was now Howard doing the same but in a much shorter time period. I'd hate
to think about the horrible future when the same thing will happen to TA.

I'd say it would be high time to seriously reconsider and change
currently so hostile prevailing public opinion directed against real
Leftist ideology and act on it too. The sooner it is the better it is for
the country!
--
Ördög ---- I show you the real Hell on Earth
Lies, greed, envy, endemic corruption, hunger for power,
unbridled hate, institutional sociopathy...
The largest political terrorist organisation
in the Southern Hemisphere:
*Liberal Party of Australia*
Fran Farmer
2015-07-01 03:31:24 UTC
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Post by Omni
Post by Trevor
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by dechucka
Post by Mazz
Post by dechucka
Should be fascinating viewing and probably worrying viewing.
The snippet that Vandstone employed the son of a mafia don in our Rome
Embassy ( where Mafia relate intelligence is passed from the Italians)
has wetted my interest
http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/key-liberal-fundraising-body-took-mafia-money-for-access-20150629-gi07yb
"Key Liberal fundraising body took Mafia money for access"
It seems the Mafia bought quite a bit of influence in the Liberal
government...
Just dont rely on the Murdoch press to read about it...
Am I being cynical in suggesting this is the reason Abbott is runnung so
hard with the Q&A thing?
Did you see Q&Alast night?
Wilson and Kelly's responses tohaving Mallah on were were appalling as
was Tanya's. They all proved to me that having that little shit on and
seeing the stupid response he got from Ciobo was a really good idea.
Bloody Wilson is a Human Rights Commissioner and supposedly a supporter
of free speech but the appallign man didn't say a thing about Ciobo and
his Human Rights infringeing responee to Mallah. Mallah may be a twit,
but he is not a Parl. Sec. and so I have more tolerance for him saying
stupid things than that twit Ciobo.
Loved Media Watch's response to all the government and media hypocrisy
over non freedom of speech, especially the clip of Howard supporting
exactly the same freedom of speech issue in the past, and all the right
wing commercial media that has had Mallah on themselves now calling for
ABC heads to roll! :-)
The neo-fascist John Howard as poster boy for lefties - who thought
they'd ever see that? It just shows how easily confused leftist
ideologues are.
That's clearly a 'woosh' from you.................
Trevor
2015-07-01 09:36:07 UTC
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Post by Omni
The neo-fascist John Howard as poster boy for lefties - who thought
they'd ever see that? It just shows how easily confused leftist
ideologues are.
YOU are the one confused, just because Howard is not quite as big an
asshole as Abbott sure doesn't make him a poster boy for anything other
than Lieberal shitheads.

Trevor.
Fran Farmer
2015-07-01 03:30:18 UTC
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Post by Trevor
Post by Fran Farmer
Post by dechucka
Post by Mazz
Post by dechucka
Should be fascinating viewing and probably worrying viewing.
The snippet that Vandstone employed the son of a mafia don in our Rome
Embassy ( where Mafia relate intelligence is passed from the Italians)
has wetted my interest
http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/key-liberal-fundraising-body-took-mafia-money-for-access-20150629-gi07yb
"Key Liberal fundraising body took Mafia money for access"
It seems the Mafia bought quite a bit of influence in the Liberal
government...
Just dont rely on the Murdoch press to read about it...
Am I being cynical in suggesting this is the reason Abbott is runnung so
hard with the Q&A thing?
Did you see Q&Alast night?
Wilson and Kelly's responses tohaving Mallah on were were appalling as
was Tanya's. They all proved to me that having that little shit on and
seeing the stupid response he got from Ciobo was a really good idea.
Bloody Wilson is a Human Rights Commissioner and supposedly a supporter
of free speech but the appallign man didn't say a thing about Ciobo and
his Human Rights infringeing responee to Mallah. Mallah may be a twit,
but he is not a Parl. Sec. and so I have more tolerance for him saying
stupid things than that twit Ciobo.
Loved Media Watch's response to all the government and media hypocrisy
over non freedom of speech, especially the clip of Howard supporting
exactly the same freedom of speech issue in the past, and all the right
wing commercial media that has had Mallah on themselves now calling for
ABC heads to roll! :-)
:-)) Yes. It was good for a belly laugh. "Head to roll" is such a
profoundly stupid choice of words given the situation with IS.

But beyond that I especially enjoyed that comment from Wilson about how
he thought that Tony Jones was being snide after Wilson stupidly claimed
that he (Wilson) believed in free speech. Wilson had banged on all
night about NOT supporting free speech when it involved the likes of
Mallah being on Q&A and exercising his (Mallah's) right to free speech.
I'd bet pounds ot peanuts that he'd have ahd a different response if
it had been Andrew Bolt who'd appeared on Q&A and said an equally stupid
and irritating but also equally as extreme thing as Mallah had done.

'Goose and gander' keeps coming to mind every time I hear comments on
this issue.
Petzl
2015-06-29 23:58:15 UTC
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Post by Mazz
Post by dechucka
Should be fascinating viewing and probably worrying viewing.
The snippet that Vandstone employed the son of a mafia don in our Rome
Embassy ( where Mafia relate intelligence is passed from the Italians)
has wetted my interest
http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/key-liberal-fundraising-body-took-mafia-money-for-access-20150629-gi07yb
"Key Liberal fundraising body took Mafia money for access"
It seems the Mafia bought quite a bit of influence in the Liberal
government...
Just dont rely on the Murdoch press to read about it...
All political parties are run by party puppeteer backers not it's
voters or members!
Saudi funding is also a fact
http://www.smh.com.au/national/wikileaks-saudi-cables-reveal-secret-saudi-government-influence-in-australia-20150620-ght4kp.html
http://tinyurl.com/oycx2bc

Look what happens if a party member speaks out of line!
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2013/s3861931.htm
http://tinyurl.com/LOBBYIST-RUN-ABBOTT
--
Petzl
A two-party system gives the voter only one more choice than North Korea.

In a democracy of course you always get a choice
Do you want to be governed by the red or by the blue?
it's entirely up to you!
Do you want to be patronized or condescended to, by liars or by crooks? You get to choose.
Would you prefer your fundamental values to be insulted or ignored by con-men or by charlatans?
In short do you want your influence to be zero or nil
and when would you like to be listened to, never or not at all, it's your choice
Do you want, some more choices.
take-it-or-leave-it
Now there's a real choice I'd be happy with any kind of representation wouldn't you
I would like to see a new government and part of me doesn't give a
damn who's in it as long as it doesn't include anybody from the Labor, Liberal or
Green party organizations that show themselves to be without shame or principle

All spineless and authoritarian both cowardly and war mongering at the same time
we have proportional voting in Australia USE IT

Put Labor, Liberal and Green party last on your Ballot choose your
independant or small parties first then donkey vote down to those last
on your ballot. Stops the majors getting OVER $2.50 a 1st preferance vote
Mazz
2015-06-29 11:42:39 UTC
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Should be fascinating viewing and probably worrying viewing.
The snippet that Vandstone employed the son of a mafia don in our Rome
Embassy ( where Mafia relate intelligence is passed from the Italians)
has wetted my interest
Just finished tonights episode... interesting.
So, Vanstone and a string of other Liberals took money 'Liberal party
donations' to stop a major Mafia figure and well established criminal
from being deported from Australia. That Mafia figure, Frank Madafferi,
later went on to be part the biggest importation of ecstasy ever seen in
the world.

And the irony... The Liberal party wants to deport Zaky Mallah... just
because they dont like his big mouth. Abbott went ape hysterical just
because the ABC let him make some point- which was actually quite valid.
Clocky
2015-06-29 22:58:53 UTC
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Post by Mazz
Post by dechucka
Should be fascinating viewing and probably worrying viewing.
The snippet that Vandstone employed the son of a mafia don in our Rome
Embassy ( where Mafia relate intelligence is passed from the Italians)
has wetted my interest
Just finished tonights episode... interesting.
So, Vanstone and a string of other Liberals took money 'Liberal party
donations' to stop a major Mafia figure and well established criminal
from being deported from Australia. That Mafia figure, Frank Madafferi,
later went on to be part the biggest importation of ecstasy ever seen in
the world.
And the irony... The Liberal party wants to deport Zaky Mallah... just
because they dont like his big mouth. Abbott went ape hysterical just
because the ABC let him make some point- which was actually quite valid.
This government is acting more like a dictatorship by the minute which
is much more of a concern.
Petzl
2015-06-30 00:04:32 UTC
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Post by Clocky
Post by Mazz
Post by dechucka
Should be fascinating viewing and probably worrying viewing.
The snippet that Vandstone employed the son of a mafia don in our Rome
Embassy ( where Mafia relate intelligence is passed from the Italians)
has wetted my interest
Just finished tonights episode... interesting.
So, Vanstone and a string of other Liberals took money 'Liberal party
donations' to stop a major Mafia figure and well established criminal
from being deported from Australia. That Mafia figure, Frank Madafferi,
later went on to be part the biggest importation of ecstasy ever seen in
the world.
And the irony... The Liberal party wants to deport Zaky Mallah... just
because they dont like his big mouth. Abbott went ape hysterical just
because the ABC let him make some point- which was actually quite valid.
This government is acting more like a dictatorship by the minute which
is much more of a concern.
Nothing like Labor?
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/content/2008/s2214216.htm
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Petzl
A two-party system gives the voter only one more choice than North Korea.

In a democracy of course you always get a choice
Do you want to be governed by the red or by the blue?
it's entirely up to you!
Do you want to be patronized or condescended to, by liars or by crooks? You get to choose.
Would you prefer your fundamental values to be insulted or ignored by con-men or by charlatans?
In short do you want your influence to be zero or nil
and when would you like to be listened to, never or not at all, it's your choice
Do you want, some more choices.
take-it-or-leave-it
Now there's a real choice I'd be happy with any kind of representation wouldn't you
I would like to see a new government and part of me doesn't give a
damn who's in it as long as it doesn't include anybody from the Labor, Liberal or
Green party organizations that show themselves to be without shame or principle

All spineless and authoritarian both cowardly and war mongering at the same time
we have proportional voting in Australia USE IT

Put Labor, Liberal and Green party last on your Ballot choose your
independant or small parties first then donkey vote down to those last
on your ballot. Stops the majors getting OVER $2.50 a 1st preferance vote
Fran Farmer
2015-06-30 06:56:05 UTC
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Post by Mazz
And the irony... The Liberal party wants to deport Zaky Mallah... just
because they dont like his big mouth. Abbott went ape hysterical just
because the ABC let him make some point- which was actually quite valid.
:-)) The points he made were valid IMO.
Jeßus
2015-06-30 01:31:57 UTC
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Post by dechucka
Should be fascinating viewing and probably worrying viewing.
The snippet that Vandstone employed the son of a mafia don in our Rome
Embassy ( where Mafia relate intelligence is passed from the Italians) has
wetted my interest
Possibly a sponge or cloth might resolve the problem for you.
dechucka
2015-06-30 02:17:07 UTC
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Post by Jeßus
Post by dechucka
Should be fascinating viewing and probably worrying viewing.
The snippet that Vandstone employed the son of a mafia don in our Rome
Embassy ( where Mafia relate intelligence is passed from the Italians) has
wetted my interest
Possibly a sponge or cloth might resolve the problem for you.
Actually a nice bottle of 2008 home brewed mead did that and sharpened my
appetite nicely. You obviously picked up on my thirst and may I add BLOODY
SPELL-CHECK
Jeßus
2015-07-01 05:28:22 UTC
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Post by Jeßus
Post by dechucka
Should be fascinating viewing and probably worrying viewing.
The snippet that Vandstone employed the son of a mafia don in our Rome
Embassy ( where Mafia relate intelligence is passed from the Italians) has
wetted my interest
Possibly a sponge or cloth might resolve the problem for you.
Actually a nice bottle of 2008 home brewed mead did that and sharpened my
appetite nicely. You obviously picked up on my thirst and may I add BLOODY
SPELL-CHECK
Only one bottle? Pussy. The last mead I put down was only about 6
weeks ago - mixed berries and honey from my mate's old man... okay,
call it a melomel if you want to get technical.
dechucka
2015-07-01 05:48:39 UTC
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Post by dechucka
Post by Jeßus
Post by dechucka
Should be fascinating viewing and probably worrying viewing.
The snippet that Vandstone employed the son of a mafia don in our Rome
Embassy ( where Mafia relate intelligence is passed from the Italians) has
wetted my interest
Possibly a sponge or cloth might resolve the problem for you.
Actually a nice bottle of 2008 home brewed mead did that and sharpened my
appetite nicely. You obviously picked up on my thirst and may I add BLOODY
SPELL-CHECK
Only one bottle? Pussy.
Came in at 23% on the hydrometer thanks to a chapagne yeast on the first run
so I was a bit 'hows your father'
Post by Jeßus
The last mead I put down was only about 6
weeks ago - mixed berries and honey from my mate's old man... okay,
call it a melomel if you want to get technical.
I have a plum melomel (own honey own fruit) down at the moment that is
tasting like it probably caused the Falcon 9 rocket explosion. A couple of
years and it will be great
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